NATIONAL editor Callum Baird returns to join Paul Kavanagh (aka Wee Ginger Dug) for our latest Dugcast. 

All the focus is on independence, starting with the waves made by Labour leadership candidate Clive Lewis's piece for The National.

As well as breaking down what he said, and discussing why he chose us, we reveal what a Scottish Labour politician told us when we asked them for a piece...

Jess Philipps has been pronouncing on independence too, as the Labour civil war on Scotland continues.

Meanwhile, we're looking at the state of the Union – and the claims of its apparent "successes".

And, of course, we have an independence march to talk about too!

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