Columnist Paul Kavanagh (aka the Wee Ginger Dug) is back with journalist Stewart Ward for another edition of our podcast. 

It's been a busy week of debates – with the Tory scorn for democracy on full show. Among many examples, Boris Johnson has been trying to squirm his way out of an Andrew Neil interview ... and the BBC are letting him.

Paul explains why he hates this current batch of Tories even more than Thatcher's.

Much like Johnson and Nigel Farage, we did miss Channel 4's climate change debate – celebrating The National's fifth birthday! Did you think we'd make it this far?

On the agenda, too, is some polling showing clear momentum for independence. We're breaking those polls down.

Paul also has some good news to share!

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