Two nations with the same goal – independence – the difference is that Scotland was allowed to have a referendum while Catalonia’s poll was met with unprecedented police violence against people who only wanted to cast their vote.

And as Catalan President Quim Torra met First Minister Nicola Sturgeon in Edinburgh yesterday, he was not disheartened by the refusal of Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez to countenance an agreed poll at their first meeting earlier this week.

Here is part of Torra's exclusive interview with The National.